The Posibility Of An Immigration Reform

[Ignacio 8]

This is a video I found today, it's in spanish and it's about Marco Rubio sounding very optimistic about a comprehensive immigration reform. I have a feeling that this year they really might pass something big.

http://video.latino.msn.com/?mkt=es-us&vid=f60acafc-31f3-41ba-a173-028986e3df65&src=v5:share:sharepermalink:&from=sharepermalink

[Erik 5]

No immigration reform until:

1. The Economy is fixed. !!!!!!! PERIOD!!!!

Once Those issues are fixed

2. Secure Borders

3. Mandatory E-varify

4. Mandatory Secure Communities

5. Payback Taxes

6. Pay Fine

7. Get in the back of the line.

[pswa83 302]

No immigration reform until:

1. The Economy is fixed. !!!!!!! PERIOD!!!!

Once Those issues are fixed

2. Secure Borders

3. Mandatory E-varify

4. Mandatory Secure Communities

5. Payback Taxes

6. Pay Fine

7. Get in the back of the line.

payback taxes??

now does that apply to those who worked illegaly? what would be the point of making those who dont work pay taxes? americans who dont work dont pay income taxes, why should those in our situation pay taxes if someone of us didnt work illegally?

BACK OF THE LINE!!!!????

define that please??

[Ignacio 8]

I'm sorry to tell you Erik, but you have insulted your own inteligence with such proposal. I'm glad politicians don't think like you.

An Immigration reform would boost the economy because many peoples wages would encrease, therefore more money to spend. Many people adquiring drivers lisence will be able to take out loans and buy new cars. Many people, outside the dreamers would start spending money on higher eduacation and things like that.

It looks like you havent done any research on the borders and its security.

If anyone works illegaly they would not be able to get any tax returns and loose all the money deducted form pay.

Paying a fine looks like the only smart thing you wrote.

Back of the line? how old are you, 15? SMH

[JayhOR24 58]

I'm sorry to tell you Erik, but you have insulted your own inteligence with such proposal. I'm glad politicians don't think like you.

An Immigration reform would boost the economy because many peoples wages would encrease, therefore more money to spend. Many people adquiring drivers lisence will be able to take out loans and buy new cars. Many people, outside the dreamers would start spending money on higher eduacation and things like that.

It looks like you havent done any research on the borders and its security.

If anyone works illegaly they would not be able to get any tax returns and loose all the money deducted form pay.

Paying a fine looks like the only smart thing you wrote.

Back of the line? how old are you, 15? SMH

I agree with you!

[Erik 5]

Ignacio- Yes Immigration creates 1.3 economy boost & yes DLs w/insurance will make roads safer. I agree with that & so does the white house. If you have been in the immigration system for 10 years & thousands of dollars spend then you might see my point of back of the line.

pswa83- by back of the line I mean those that been in the system waiting should go 1st than those that haven't(your tier system idea). The pay back taxes is been proposed & likely be part of the bill( will have to pay 3 years of taxes).

The points I made are the points that are been talked around DC & hopefully will be part of the bill.

Ignacio-Look at all the videos including the spanish one w/ senator Rubio & then look at my points umm.. is not just me.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/13/us/politics/obama-plans-to-push-congress-on-immigration-overhaul.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykdbzovozCQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[Erik 5]

oh also the article between the videos. lol

[Ignacio 8]

Erik From 2 to 6 sounds like an immigration reform.

But waiting for the economy to get fixed first is ridiculous, and about that I haven't seen anything anywhere. Theres a lot less people crossing the border now than ever. E Veriry will implemented after they start legalizing all the elegible people and deporting the deportables.

Back of the line sounds sellfish and really wont make a difference. Everyone elegible will be able to get a work permit, to wait for their permanent residency card, whether they are in front of back of the "line". I've been here for 17 years and don't differentiate my self from immigrants that have been here for 10 or 5 years when it comes to having papers, because most of us here for a better future for generations to come.

[pswa83 302]

ok, so the whole "back of the line" comment kind of made me mad. lol.

i've been in this country since i was a week old and this year i will turn 30. back in 2001, when my mother was still a PR, we filed the I-130 on my behalf. since then i've been dealing with the Immigration.

i honestly dont think that it would be fair, to myself or people in the same situation,(have been trying to adjust their status legally) for those who have been in the country just a few yrs to receive the same benefits that I would. that's like saying to people like me, "hey, we know you've filed the correct papers and paid the fees and what not, but we're going to let other people who havent done all that just cut in line." it's not fair.

i also do not think that the Dream Act, as it stands, caters to the older immigrants. As it stands, even though i have a college degree and have never been in any legal trouble, I would be too old to apply for the Dream Act.

I think with the tiered CIR, i laid out, it caters to a wide varity of people in almost every situation while still giving them a chance to not only apply but too gain legal status.

i also dont agree with the whole "pay back taxes" issue either. as it is, when I am able to adjust my status through my I-130, i will need to pay a $1000 fine for EWI. ok, that's fine. but then to have to t pay maybe $3000 or $4000 "fine" upon the filing fees, is just too much. and yes, i do have a job but $4000 is a whole months pay.how do they expect immigrants to want the "american" dream when there are a lot of americans who dont pay taxes and live off the system. Fair?? i think not.

[Ignacio 8]

what do you mean by filing the correct papers, and paid fees? I have been here illegal for 17 years and never heard of a way to gain legal status, or even filing any forms because I have no base. If a lpr claimed you in 2001, you've probably had a work permit in 3 months for 2 years, renewable, make you pretty much legal. you can also get advance parole to travel, instate tuition. so i don't think youre undocumented if that is what youre going through. and to be honest, i doubt that becoming a lpr through the cir will be easier than being claimed by a direct relative. also it would be have different prossesing times.

[pswa83 302]

what do you mean by filing the correct papers, and paid fees? I have been here illegal for 17 years and never heard of a way to gain legal status, or even filing any forms because I have no base. If a lpr claimed you in 2001, you've probably had a work permit in 3 months for 2 years, renewable, make you pretty much legal. you can also get advance parole to travel, instate tuition. so i don't think youre undocumented if that is what youre going through. and to be honest, i doubt that becoming a lpr through the cir will be easier than being claimed by a direct relative. also it would be have different prossesing times.

if there is a work permit out there with my name on it (other then one that i have) i would certainly like to know. just because my mother, who at the time was a PR, filed the I-130 on my behalf, doesnt mean that i gained legal status in any way. my mother became a USC in 2005 after i turned 21, which puts me in the F1 category. Also, this does not mean that i gain any legal status or have a visa available to me.

PLEASE, do not make any assumptions on things or cases you do not know anything about.

[Ignacio 8]

so from that you didnt even get a work permit? im trying to understand, you dont have to be so sensitive.

[pswa83 302]

no, the immigration is more complicated than people think.

[Ignacio 8]

how are you in the system then? i just dont get it. but besides from that, what i think is that all dreamers (which have more potential of becoming professionals) should have pr. the other remainding people should be able to have their ead's and wait for their green cards according to their qualification (but still, its going to be hard, and not everyone will be able to file right away, which confuses me even more as to how the processing times will be) and live a life in dignity while they wait for their green cards. I say this because dreamers, like myself, need financial aid and i think that with daca we cant get it. but everyone else is going to stay here the rest of their lives, whether they've been here 5 years or 30 years, we're part of the same wave, which has almost ended completely. there's not going to be alot of illegal people after this.

the assumptions i made i based them on the things i know, thats why i was asking. so please dont get mad.. it wasnt my intention to get anyone mad because of how i think.

[pswa83 302]

i'm in the USCIS system because in 2001, my mother filed the I-130 petition for me. that only establishes the relation between the petitioner (my mother) and the beneficiary (myself). then when the petitioner becomes a USC and if the beneficiary is still under the age of 21, the beneficiary can adjust their status. my mom didnt become a USC till i turned 22. so i was then put in the F1 category with the National Visa Center (NVC). the NVC is barely working on cases from 1993 in that category. so one needs to wait until the NVC is currently when their priority date (when USCIS received their I-130) before one can adjust their status. at this rate, i still have another 12 to 14 yrs to wait if Immigration reform isnt passed.

like i said, the immigration system is complicated and even more so if your over 21 like myself.

the way the Dream Act (not DACA) is written now, i am still too old to apply (if it had passed) even though i have a double major and graduated college with honors.

not mad, promise. just get frustrated that there's still a lot of people who think that Immigration is a black and white issue. that is one wants to be here legally all they need to do is file papers and pay fees and BOOM. it's not that easy but i wish it was...lol

[Ignacio 8]

why couldn't you apply for a work permit, while you wait for the green card? damn, sounds frustraing, specially if you came here as a child..

hopefully they do something for the people who already have daca in this CIR, at least waive some fees, and let us apply for financial aid. it's not easy to pay for these things :/

[Erik 5]

and BOOM... lol I wish it will be that easy.....

[Osha 126]

PSWA83, Is your mom a U.S Citizen? If not, forget this post, if she is a U.S. citizen then continue reading.

You are an immediate relatives of a U.S citizen (Your Mother), right? If you're mother is a U.S. citizen and you're 21 years or older and unmarried, you should file form I-130 again and you'll be able to receive a visa number right away, which would allow you to file form I-485 to adjust your status. There is no waiting period for children of U.S citizens. So, I don't really understand why you didn't apply again for adjustment of status knowing now that your mom is a U.S. citizen.

[itzel 336]

Wow...really? ^^^^^^^^

Like pswa83 said some people tend to think that immigration is a black & white issue. Its not that easy, they always have extra little clauses and I think pswa83 whos been dealing with immigration her whole life,and who Im sure has consulted various attorneys. Only the person in the situation knows exactly whats going on.

[pswa83 302]

PSWA83, Is your mom a U.S Citizen? If not, forget this post, if she is a U.S. citizen then continue reading.

You are an immediate relatives of a U.S citizen (Your Mother), right? If you're mother is a U.S. citizen and you're 21 years or older and unmarried, you should file form I-130 again and you'll be able to receive a visa number right away, which would allow you to file form I-485 to adjust your status. There is no waiting period for children of U.S citizens. So, I don't really understand why you didn't apply again for adjustment of status knowing now that your mom is a U.S. citizen.

so my mom is a USC but because she became a USC after i turned 21, a visa is not available for me until my priority is current with NVC. what happens to someone's petition after they turn 21 is that they get put into categories. there are 4 different ones. Mexico being the one that is the most backlogged.

i thought about filing the I-130 again but my lawyer said it wouldnt do any good because of my age. i would be in the same position i am now. the "immediate relative" only applies to those UNDER 21 because they are still considered "children".

i've already come to the understanding that it's completely beyond my control. i've been to so many layers about all this and only one was able to come up to a solution. i could have applied for something called Family Unity, which are for children of those who were granted amnesty in the 80s, like my mother did. however, i had to get evidence from may of 1985 and i was only 2 back then.its pretty much like DACA, but the category on the EAD is different.

[Osha 126]

PSWA83, You're absolutely correct about that, forgive me, I had my information all wrong.

Have you tried to determine if the Child Status Protection Act (CSPA) applies to you?

[pswa83 302]

PSWA83, You're absolutely correct about that, forgive me, I had my information all wrong.

Have you tried to determine if the Child Status Protection Act (CSPA) applies to you?

it's ok, just dont let it happen again...lol...jk

i've tried and i think because of the date my I-130 was approved (after i turned 21), it doesnt apply to me. i think the only thing that CSPA does besides freezes the age of the applicant, is protect them from paying the $1000 fine when they are able to AOS.

i think now that i have a great job that pays well, money isnt really an issue like it was before. i'm saving money so whether CIR happens or if down the road i'm able to AOS, i'll be ok money wise.